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Promoted Content. Close drawer menu Financial Times International Edition. Search the FT Search. World Show more World. US Show more US. But the most memorable zingers are short and salty, like Reagan's to Carter during the debates. When Carter accused Reagan of opposing Medicare and social security, Reagan simply said "There you go again," shooting Carter down faster than you could say "I will not make age an issue of this campaign," which would be Reagan's takedown of choice four years later.
If you were to drop this quote at a dinner party, would you get an in-unison "awww" or would everyone roll their eyes and never invite you back? Here it is, on a scale of Some argue that Carter's criticism was correct , but Reagan's " charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent " won the debate and the election. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve anything.
She'd love to have some victories on a date called November 3. Nancy Pelosi does not want to approve it. We are ready, willing and able to do something. Don't forget, we've already approved three plans. And it's gone through, including the Democrats, in all fairness.
This one she doesn't want. It's near the election, because she thinks it helps her politically. I think it hurts her politically.
Biden: You know, the Republican leader in the United States Senate said he can't -- he will not pass it. He does not have Republican votes. You are the leader of the Democratic Party. Why have you not [] Democrats to get a deal for the American people? Biden: Well, I have and they have pushed it. Look, they passed this act all the way back in the beginning of the summer. This is like -- it's not new. It's been out there.
And look at what's happening. He will not support that. They have not done a thing for them. Let him go bankrupt. What's the matter with these Trump: The bill that was passed in the House was a bailout of badly run high crime, Democrat, all run by Democrats, cities and states.
It was a way of getting a lot of money, billions and billions of dollars to these cities. It was also a way of getting a lot of money from our people's pockets to people that come into our country illegally. We were going to take care of everything for them. And what that does, and I'd love to do that, I'd love to help them.
But what that does, everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country. We can't do it. This was a way of taking care of them. This was a way of sending them things that had nothing to do with COVID, as for your question, but it was really a big bailout for badly run Democrat cities and states. I don't see red states and blue states. What I see is American United States.
And folks, every single state out there finds themselves in trouble. They're going to start laying off, whether they're red or blue. Cops, firefighters, first responders, teachers -- because they have to balance their budget.
And the founders were smart. They allowed the federal government to deficit spend to compensate for the United States of America. Welker: I want to talk about the minimum wage, gentlemen. Vice President, we are talking a lot about struggling small businesses and business owners today. Do you think this is the right time to ask them to raise the minimum wage?
We should be bailing them out now, those small businesses. They're not going to be able to make it back. Schools, how they can make classrooms smaller, how they can hire more teachers, how they can put ventilation systems in. They need the help, the businesses, as well as the schools, need the help.
But this, these guys will not help them. He is not giving them any of the money. Every state is different. It should be a state option. So it's very important. We have to help our small business Trump: How are you helping small businesses, when you're forcing wages. What's going to happen and what's been proven to happen is when you do that these firemen. Is that still the case? I really like what I -- in a second administration -- but not to a level that's going to put all these businesses out of business.
Look, I have a read on different places, I know different places. Biden: Two jobs, one job below poverty. People are making 6, 7, 8 bucks an hour. These first responders we all clap for as they come down the street, because they've allowed us to make it. What's happening? Anything below that put you below the poverty level. And there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage, business has gone out of business.
That is simply not true. Welker: We're going to talk about immigration. We're going to talk about immigration, now, gentlemen, and we're going to talk about families within this context.
President, your administration separated children from their parents at the border, at least kids, You've since reversed your zero tolerance policy , but the United States can't locate the parents of more than children. So how will these families ever be reunited? We now have a stronger border as we've ever had. They built cages.
You know, they used to say I built the cages. And then they had a picture in the newspaper. That was him. But a lot of these kids come up without the parents, they come over through cartels and the coyotes and through gangs.
Welker: Vice President Biden, let me bring you into this conversation. Quick response and then another question to you. Biden: These plus kids came with parents. They separated them at the border to make it a disincentive to come to begin with. Big real tough, really strong.
And guess what? They got separated from their parents. And it makes us a laughingstock and violates every judge of who we are as a nation. Trump: Kristen, they did it, we changed the policy. They did it. We changed it. They set up the cages. They -- who built the cages? What happened? Parents were ripped -- their kids were ripped from their arms and separated.
And now they cannot find over sets of those parents and those kids are alone. Nowhere to go, nowhere to go. It's criminal. Trump: Let me say this. They worked it out, we brought reporters and everything. They are so well taken care of. They're in facilities that were so clean Trump: But just answer one question. Who built the cages? A big ask of that, who built the cages? Welker: Let me ask about your immigration policy, Mr. Vice President. The Obama administration did fail to deliver immigration reform, which had been a key promise during the administration.
It also presided over record deportations as well as family detentions at the border before changing course. So why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now? Biden: Because we made a mistake. It took too long to get it right. Too long to get it right. And all those so called Dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be legally certified again, to be able to stay in this country, and put on a path to citizenship.
The idea that they are being sent home by this guy, and they want to do, that is they go to a country they've never seen before. I'm not gonna go with you. Many of them are model citizens. We owe them. Trump: He had eight years to do what he said he was going to do.
And I've changed without having a specific -- we get rid of catch and release, got rid of a lot of horrible things that they put in and that they live with. But he had eight years he was vice president. He did nothing except build cages to keep children in. Biden: The catch and release, you know what he's talking about there? If in fact, you had family, came across, they're arrested. They, in fact, were given a date to show up for their hearing. They were released.
And guess what, they showed up for the hearing. This is the first President in the history of the United States of America that anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country. That's never happened before. You come to the United States and you make your case.
They're sitting in squalor on the other side of the river. It shows that he has no understanding of immigration of the laws. Catch and release is a disaster. A murderer would come in, a rapist would come in, a very bad person would come in -- we would take their name, we have to release them into our country.
And then you say they come back. You did Perry Mason, we're going to give you a court case. When you say they come back, they don't come back, Joe. They never come back. Only the really -- I hate to say this -- but those with the lowest IQ, they might come back. Welker: All right.
Let's talk about our next section, which is race in America. And I want to talk about the way Black and Brown Americans experience race in this country. Vice President, in the next two minutes, I want you to speak directly to these families.
Do you understand why these parents fear for their children? Biden: I do. You know, my daughter is a social worker. And she's written a lot about this. She's got a graduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania in social work. So, one of the reasons why I ended up working on the East side of Wilmington, Delaware, which is 90 percent African American, was to learn more about what was going on. When I didn't -- I never had to tell my daughter if she's pulled over, make sure she puts, for traffic stop, puts both hands on top of the wheel.
And don't reach for the glove box because someone may shoot you. But a Black parent, no matter how wealthy or how poor they are, has to teach their child, when you're walking down the street, don't have a hoodie on when you go across the street, making sure that you, in fact, if you get pulled over, just Yes or No sir, just hands on top of the wheel.
The fact of the matter is there is institutional racism in America. And we have always said we've never lived up to it. Do we hold these truths to be sovereign, are all men and women are created equal? Guess what -- we have never ever lived up to it. We have constantly been moving the needle further and further between inclusion and exclusion. This is the first president come along and says that's the end of that.
We're not going to do that anymore. We have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to schooling, better access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses. All the things we can do. And I've laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things.
Just to give people a shot. It's about accumulating the ability to have wealth, as well as it is to be free from violence. And let me remind you of the question, I would like you to speak directly to these families.
Trump: Yes, I do. And again, he's been in government 47 years. He never did a thing except in , when he did such harm to the Black community. And they were called, and he called them, super predators. And he said that, he said it -- super predators. And they can never live that down. Nobody has done more for the Black community than Donald Trump. And if you look, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln--possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what I've done.
Criminal justice reform, Obama and Joe didn't do it. I don't even think they tried because they had no chance at doing it. They might have wanted to do it. But if you had to see the arms I had a twist to get that done, it was not a pretty picture. And everybody knows it including some very liberal people that cried in my office--they cried in the Oval Office. He came in with this incredible idea for opportunity zones. People don't talk about it. Tremendous investment is being made.
Biggest beneficiary, the Black and Hispanic communities and then historically Black colleges and universities. After three years of coming to the office, I love some of those guys, they were great, they came into the office.
And I did. But I saved colleges and universities. And we're going to talk about both of your records, but your response to that Vice President? He talked about marauding gangs, young gangs, the people who are going to mauraud our cities.
This is a guy who when the Central Park five, five innocent Black kids, he continued to push for making sure that they got the death penalty. None of them were-- none of them were guilty of what the crime, of the crimes that were suggested. Over 1, The very law he's talking about is a law that, in fact, initiated by Barack Obama. And secondly, we're in a situation here where we-- the federal prison system was reduced by 38, people under our administration.
And one of the things we should be doing is there should be no, no minimum mandatories in the law. Nobody should be going to jail because they have a drug problem. They should be going to rehabilitation, not to jail. We should fundamentally change the system and that's what I'm going to do.
Why didn't you do that four years ago, even less than that? Why didn't you You keep talking about all these things you're going to do and you're going to do this. But you were there just a short time ago and you guys did nothing. I ran because of Barack Obama, because you did a poor job. If I said you did a good job, I would have never run.
I would've never run. I ran because of you. I'm looking at you now, you're a politician. And then I do have some questions for both of you. I am anxious to have this race. I'm anxious to see this take place.
I am-- the character of the country is on the ballot. Our character is on the ballot. Look at us closely. So don't give me the stuff about how you're this innocent baby. Joe, they're calling you a corrupt politician We're talking about the issue President Trump They have said that this has all the characteristics-- four-- five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except him, his, and his good friend Rudy Giuliani.
You gotta be The laptop is Russia, Russia, Russia? Here we go again with Russia. President, we're gonna continue on the issue of race. President, you've described the Black Lives Matter movement as a symbol of hate. You've shared a video of a man chanting white power to millions of your supporters. You've said that Black professional athletes exercising their first amendment rights should be fired.
What do you say to Americans who say that kind of language from a president is contributing to a climate of hate and racial strife? And they were marching down the street. And that was my first glimpse of Black Lives Matter. I thought it was a terrible thing.
As far as my relationships with all people, I think I have great relationships with all people. I am the least racist person in this room.
I got criminal justice reform done, and prison reform, and opportunity zones. I took care of Black colleges and universities. I don't know what to say. They can say anything. I mean, they can say anything. It's a very-- it makes me sad because I am the least racist person. I can't even see the audience because it's so dark, but I don't care who's in the audience. Vice President Biden, let me ask you, very quickly, and then I have a follow up question for you. Here is one of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history.
He pours fuel on every single racist fire, every single one. He's banned Muslims because they're Muslims. He has moved around and made everything worse across the board. This guy has a dog whistle about as big as a fog horn. Where did that come in? I mean I said not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the Black community. Now you have done nothing other than the crime bill, which put And you know what? Crime bill that you supported in the 80s and 90s contributed to the incarceration of tens of thousands of young Black men who had small amounts of drugs in their possession.
So speak to those families, why should they vote for you? It was a mistake. I've been trying to change it since then, particularly the portion on cocaine. That's why I've been arguing that, in fact, we should not send anyone to jail for a pure drug offense. They should be going into treatment across the board. That's what we should be spending money on. That's why I set up drug courts which were never funded by republican friends.
They should not be going to jail for a drug or an alcohol problem. They should be going into treatment. That's what we've been trying to do. That's what I'm going to get done because they may-- the American people have now seen that in fact, it was a mistake to pass those laws where they do the drug. But they were not in the crime bill. See, it's all talk no action with these politicians. Why didn't he get it? You were vice president, along with Obama as your President, your leader, for eight years.
Why didn't you get it done? You had eight years to get it done? Now, you're saying you're gonna get it done because you're all talk and no action, Joe. We released 38, We got 38, prisoners left from We have-- there were over people who were given clemency. I could go on, but we began the process.
We began the process. We lost an election. That's why I'm running to win back that election and change his terrible policy. Why didn't you do it? I'm going to do this. Now you're saying you're going to get-- you're going to undo that. You had eight years with Obama?
You know why, Joe, because you're all talk and no action. I had to talk Democrats into it. You both have very different visions on climate change. President Trump, you say that environmental regulations have hurt jobs in the energy sector.
Vice President Biden, you have said you see addressing climate change as an opportunity to create new jobs. For each of you, how would you both combat climate change and support job growth at the same time?
Starting with you, President Trump, you have two minutes uninterrupted. I do love the environment, but what I want the cleanest, crystal clear water, the cleanest air.
We have the best, lowest number in carbon emissions, which is a big standard that I noticed Obama goes with all the time. Not Joe.
I haven't heard him use the term because I'm not sure he knows what it represents or means, but I have heard Obama use it. And we have the best carbon emission numbers that we've had in 35 years. Look at Russia. Look at India. It's filthy. The air is filthy. The Paris Accord, I took us out because we were going to have to spend trillions of dollars and we were treated very unfairly.
When they put us in there, they did us a great disservice. They were going to take away our businesses.
I will not sacrifice tens of millions of jobs, thousands and thousands of companies because of the Paris Accord. It was so unfair. China doesn't kick in until Russia goes back to a low standard and we kicked in right away. It would-- It would have been-- It would have destroyed our businesses. So, you ready? We have done an incredible job environmentally.
We have the cleanest air, the cleanest water and the best carbon emission standards that we've seen in many, many years. We have a moral obligation to deal with it. And we're told by all the leading scientists in the world that we don't have much time.
We're going to pass the point of no return within the next eight to 10 years. Four years of this man eliminating all the regulations that were put in by us to clean up the climate, to clean up-- to limit the-- limit of admissions will put us in a position where we're going to be in real trouble. Here's where we have a great opportunity, I was able to get both all the environmental organizations as well as labor, people worried about jobs, to support my climate plan.
Because what it does, it will create millions of new, good-paying jobs. We're going to invest in, for example, , 50,, excuse me, 50, charging stations on our highways so that we can own the electric car market in the future. In the meantime, China's doing that. We're going to be in a position where we're going to see to it that we're going to take 4 million existing billion, buildings and 2 million existing homes and retrofit them so they don't leak as much energy, saving hundreds of millions of barrels of oil in the process and creating a significant number of jobs.
And by the way, the whole idea of what this is all going to do, it's going to create millions of jobs and it's going to clean the environment. Our health and our jobs are at stake. That's what's happening. And we-- right now, by the way, Wall Street firm has indicated that my plan-- My plan will, in fact, create If you look at what he wants to do, you know if you look at his plan, you know, you know who developed it?
They know nothing about the climate. I mean, she's got a good line of stuff, but she knows nothing about the climate. If we had the best year in the history of our country for years, we would not even come close to a number like that. When he says buildings, they want to take buildings down because they want to make bigger windows into smaller windows.
As far as they're concerned, if you had no window it would be a lovely thing. This is the craziest plan that anybody has ever seen. And this wasn't done by smart people. This wasn't done by anybody. Frankly, I don't even know how it can be good politically.
That's their real number. He's trying to say it was six. They want to knock down buildings and build new buildings with little tiny, small windows and many other things. And many other things So let's hear from the Vice President. I have a number of more questions. Give me a break. This plan was-- This plan has been endorsed by every major-- every major environmental group and every labor group.
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